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Post by Nepenthe on June 8th 2010, 6:47 pm

I am losing to people under me over me, pretty much everyone who challenges me.


Mind Resonance x4

Duelist Chest x5

Duelist Mind Focus x5

Duelist Runic Gloves x5

Living Armor x1

Steel Chest x5

Superior Warden Cloak x5

Honor Legplates x3

Honor Cloak x3

Winter Crest x1

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Re: My defense gear

Post by Tabernacle on June 8th 2010, 7:01 pm

here's the defense gear my level 23 uses:

Heart of Grimox x5
Will of Grimox x5
Dozing Potion x3
Mind Resonance x5
Duelist Plate Armor x5
Duelist Mind Blast x5
Invoke Magic Shield x2
Duelist Mind Focus x4
Evil Glare x4

Seems to work pretty well. He's 5-1 on defense this week.

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Re: My defense gear

Post by lessigfan on June 8th 2010, 7:26 pm

I'm sure you know, but the deck you set as defensive is just the one you fight attackers with. You want to put your strongest deck as defensive - whether that's a spirit turtle setup, magic/magic cpb, or something else.

If you're just playing defensive runes, and no spirit, odds are you're going to lose just about all of them.

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Re: My defense gear

Post by Tabernacle on June 8th 2010, 8:17 pm

Wait...you're level 28 and you're using that gear? That's like a not-as-good version of the gear my level 22 uses. Update to gear that's at your level.
(also, farm some HP and spirit, my characters are 5-6 levels below you and have more HP and spirit).

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Re: My defense gear

Post by Nepenthe on June 8th 2010, 8:36 pm

Tabernacle wrote:Wait...you're level 28 and you're using that gear? That's like a not-as-good version of the gear my level 22 uses. Update to gear that's at your level.
(also, farm some HP and spirit, my characters are 5-6 levels below you and have more HP and spirit).

I have stopped at every market and this was the best gear I could get.

Also is there a section on farming HP and Spirit?

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Re: My defense gear

Post by Tabernacle on June 8th 2010, 9:38 pm

Yep, right here in the forums.
http://duel.mygoo.org/guides-e-f82/hp-farming-t4229.htm

Have you done the Tablet hunter quest yet? If not, you should get right on that. Takes about a week, but at your level it should be a piece of cake. Gives +2 to all stats and +25HP. http://duel.mygoo.org/estiah-f69/tablet-seeker-quest-t4081.htm

Also, make sure you're gathering and finding exploration sites and clearing them as often as possible. Treasure hunter is a great skill and the drops from events can be used to craft some really good items and the explorer skill gives both HP and spirit.

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Re: My defense gear

Post by Howie Feltersnatch on June 8th 2010, 10:24 pm

It sounds like your making one of the mistakes i did, not crafting any weapons other than the PVP one. Make sure you look in the shops, and at time you need to take a few days to get items to craft what you want. Also Tabs advice was very good.

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Re: My defense gear

Post by Telamon on June 8th 2010, 11:53 pm

Charms for you to craft:

PVP Charms:
Duelist Mind Blast

Mind Domination

Treasure Hunter crafts:
Memory Loss

Dungeon Drops:
Skull Shield

Dungeon Crafts:
Helm of Repentance
Scroll of Serenity

Right now you're doing too much armor/warding, too little spiriting. You're also completely wide open to the Scout Win Buttan-- EA, EA, BANE BANE BANE BANE BANE. The Helm and Scroll should help with that. You could also look into Dim Halo, Duelist Shoulderpads, and Luminous Ideas-- EA Ward, Armor, and Will, respectively, that can help ALOT. They do sting against the aforementioned Win Buttan . . .

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Re: My defense gear

Post by Nepenthe on June 9th 2010, 12:54 am

Howie Feltersnatch wrote:It sounds like your making one of the mistakes i did, not crafting any weapons other than the PVP one. Make sure you look in the shops, and at time you need to take a few days to get items to craft what you want. Also Tabs advice was very good.

I have, but I have noticed that at my level , in the PVP sections. I don't qualify for things, because my attributes are so low.

Power is 190+
Int 190+
Dex 120+

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Re: My defense gear

Post by Howie Feltersnatch on June 9th 2010, 1:01 am

OK, well even if you can't use stuff yet you need to put more spirit into your deck and less armor/ward. Also look in the showcase and see if there is anything in there that will improve your gear. You should also be able to use most of the spirit charms listed in Telamons post.

my level 19 toon has 20 spirit

Invoke Magic Shield x5
Tranquility x4
Mind Resonance x5
Warrior's Presence x5
Phantom Glow x5

Shakanite Chest x5
Warrior's Runic Bracers x2
Dozing Potion x2

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Re: My defense gear

Post by Tabernacle on June 9th 2010, 1:02 am

The good thing about the spirit turtle setup is that it doesn't require much in the way of attributes. A little pow and dex are really all you need. 144 dex/pow is all you need for the highest level spirit charm you can use at your level.

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Re: My defense gear

Post by Telamon on June 9th 2010, 1:24 am

Nepenthe wrote:
Howie Feltersnatch wrote:It sounds like your making one of the mistakes i did, not crafting any weapons other than the PVP one. Make sure you look in the shops, and at time you need to take a few days to get items to craft what you want. Also Tabs advice was very good.

I have, but I have noticed that at my level , in the PVP sections. I don't qualify for things, because my attributes are so low.

Power is 190+
Int 190+
Dex 120+

Hell, with your stats the way they are I'd suggest running a magic deck-- Overheat, Honor Shadow/Fire, Blue Dragon Bone, Luminous Ideas, etc. You can run decent fire charms, decent shadow charms, so I'd roll with that, if I were you.

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Re: My defense gear

Post by Nepenthe on June 9th 2010, 1:02 pm

Ok, so maybe I am over thinking. I have a attack that I use, that I thought was ok, but I used this one for defense. Here is my attack.






Selected gear: 37/37 charms
Warrior's Claws x5

Brutal Axe x2

Small Fury Potion x3

Blue Flame x1

Consuming Shadow x3

Fighter's Claws x2

Duelist Fire Staff x3

Quick Blade x1

Fist of Vengeance x1

Fireball x3

Hardened Steel Ripper x2

Honor Gauntlets x2

Duelist Lightning Staff x1

Fighter's Handscythes x2

Shadow Bolt x5

Power Surge x1

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Re: My defense gear

Post by Nepenthe on June 9th 2010, 1:12 pm

Telamon wrote:Charms for you to craft:

PVP Charms:
Duelist Mind Blast

Mind Domination

Treasure Hunter crafts:
Memory Loss

Dungeon Drops:
Skull Shield

Dungeon Crafts:
Helm of Repentance
Scroll of Serenity

Right now you're doing too much armor/warding, too little spiriting. You're also completely wide open to the Scout Win Buttan-- EA, EA, BANE BANE BANE BANE BANE. The Helm and Scroll should help with that. You could also look into Dim Halo, Duelist Shoulderpads, and Luminous Ideas-- EA Ward, Armor, and Will, respectively, that can help ALOT. They do sting against the aforementioned Win Buttan . . .


The reason why I was doing these was I was getting out damaged, so I figured I would build up on Armor, and ward. I also noticed that spirit hasn't helped me, because I take too much damage that it doesn't last long enough to use Spirit

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Post by Nepenthe on June 9th 2010, 1:18 pm

Tabernacle wrote:Yep, right here in the forums.
http://duel.mygoo.org/guides-e-f82/hp-farming-t4229.htm

Have you done the Tablet hunter quest yet? If not, you should get right on that. Takes about a week, but at your level it should be a piece of cake. Gives +2 to all stats and +25HP. http://duel.mygoo.org/estiah-f69/tablet-seeker-quest-t4081.htm

Also, make sure you're gathering and finding exploration sites and clearing them as often as possible. Treasure hunter is a great skill and the drops from events can be used to craft some really good items and the explorer skill gives both HP and spirit.

Gathering I started last week. I figured I would see what it was about and I really liked it. I am almost a master on Base Metals and Vital

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Re: My defense gear

Post by Tabernacle on June 9th 2010, 3:34 pm

I recommend picking one damage type and sticking with it. Either magic (fire/shadow) or melee (fists/swords/axes). If you mix damage types people who play defense will have an advantage against you.

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Post by lessigfan on June 9th 2010, 8:37 pm

Tabernacle wrote:I recommend picking one damage type and sticking with it. Either magic (fire/shadow) or melee (fists/swords/axes). If you mix damage types people who play defense will have an advantage against you.

This is absolutely key within a single deck. Not only those using defense will wipe out mixed decks, but if you're using constant power buffs, mixing damage types is going to hurt you against everyone (unless you're using dual damage type charms).

But don't specialize your character in a single damage type. I know someone who thought melee was better and only leveled melee skills. He did fine until he came to Sheypar the martyr. Whoops.

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Re: My defense gear

Post by Telamon on June 9th 2010, 11:33 pm

Yeah. You want to stick with just one type of damage-- If you're liking Melee, I'd suggest: Fury Potion, Night Cloak (!!! I still use that on my Assassin (l50) in Coliseums), Rapier, Honor Thrust if you can (Good guide for EAS: 1/3 eas. So if you have 30 charms, 10 EAs. 45 charms, 15 eas. It gets in the full blast of damage and usually doesn't dizzy you).

Triple-Edged Axe is handy at 29, if you can run it. Charged Fist does decent damage (and Cyneth is The Best Defender Farm you can imagine, if you don't have Defender/Leadership R2, GET IT THERE Smile).

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